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Thanks for posting this @markcmarino and for all that you and @jeremydouglass and your team have done to make CCSWG an important Internet-based forum
Well, we are equally grateful to you and for those who have joined us!
I learned something great when Dr Jeremy Douglass agreed with my view, I felt I was in the 9th planet. Thanks Dr MarK Marino. Thanks Judy Malloy for talking on women gender. Thanks my curiosity is about to be satiated.
For an always intriguing combination of cybernetics and dense philosophy and a window into 2nd order cybernetics, check out this excellent anthology of Heinz von Foerster’s papers:
Foerster, Heinz von. 2003. Understanding understanding: essays on cybernetics and cognition. New York: Springer.